The Beatles and MARK LEWISOHN

(All the audio is below the posts.)

Jump to Sharon’s @wingsoverlagos’ Lewisohn Tumblr post links, written as she checked

See Sharon’s Lewisohn error spreadsheet 💣

(and her spreadsheet readme)


It will never stop being the most popular Beatles’ content on my website. Nothing I ever do can compete with Martha, so love the huge-tangled-ball-of-wool and be happy

The Lewisohn mess:

The original. (Emojis and all.)

The thing that just came pouring out of me one night on Tumblr. It’s, you know, Tumblr, but it’s about something real and central to the soul of the Beatles, completely non-technical, and written with the freedom of social media. And, looking back, it’s where I realized how to put into words what I was seeing, and I knew I had. As I was writing it. (After some soap for my mouth and general cleaning up, of course.)

By @wingsoverlagos

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WordPress updated everything into absolute $#*@ and I can’t fire them until next year, but now sometimes the players show “Error.” It’s usually an obnoxious lie and the audio works. Occasionally it takes refreshing the page, but in general ignore “Error” messages and please briefly shake your fist at WordPress in solidarity with me.

TEMP ETW – only tonight did i source it back to RR. hadn’t realized before. “Luckily enough I stumbled upon this book….”
From The Beatles Hamburg (Star Club) tapes: “Cotton for the ears can be obtained from the toilet lady!” — Paul and drunk John call to Batina, and Paul starts “Your Feet’s Too Big” as John starts heckling the guy in the crowd again
“Just sod off with it” • John Lennon tells Michael Lindsay Hogg to sod off
“OH, MAUREEN” • Boys getting stoned, talking nonsense, and Ringo wants the one girl in their “movie” to be Maureen
“Least pretentious” • Linda and Michael Lindsay Hogg, the least pretentious
Ringo’s regular “I’m here” reminder – chains version
There’s thirteen here already”

Some day—when the Lewisohn business has calmed—I am going to post a lot of Nagra clips. For now, here’s a menu of @amoralto’s (pronounce: “a moral to”) amazing store of Get Back/Nagra audio and other January 1969 knowledge. 🫡

“I did set the bar high… I want to match that truth” • Beatles are fortunate to have me • Nothing is Real – Episode 15 – Mark Lewisohn Part 2 — October 16, 2019
Lewisohn: “My biggest beef with Apple these days is the cowardice of how they’ve operated with me … You bastards. I’m trying to write your book, here. … And you’re not letting me see it. … Right, now I know who I’m dealing with, here. … I’m trying to write their story and they’re stopping me.”Nothing is Real – Episode 15 – Mark Lewisohn Part 2 • (October 16, 2019)
Lewisohn FOTR: “The bastards took my name off it” • Apple Music has taken Lewisohn’s name off Past Masters and he is not happy about it • (April 28, 2022)
Delusional Lewisohn: “Mimi hid John’s birth certificate” • 📍 ‘Things We Said Today’ pod • Episode 252: “Mark Lewisohn!” • (Nov 22, 2017)
Fab4Cast – Lewisohn on John and Yoko marrying so soon after Paul and Linda: “I’ve heard people say that it was, but I’ve never heard John say that it was, so there’s no validity to those claims. They’re just people assuming that John didn’t want to be outdone by Paul. Which I think is— That’s the kind of writing that annoys me, because it becomes part of the ‘fact’ and it’s just someone — a writer, thinking.” (February 28, 2020)
“People should keep their own bullshit out of things… I’m not introducing anything that isn’t verifiable.”Tune In set a lot of things right, but people still say wrong things that they could have just looked up in his book • Mark Lewisohn comes very close to saying no one younger than him can write Beatles history and the world got Get Back wrong – FOTR (April 28, 2022)
“Falling in Love Again” • Mark Lewisohn • There wasn’t an English version, well maybe there was, but he’s still sticking to the “it should have been Hollaender/McCartney.” Except Paul’s lyrics are bad because there’s too many syllables, here’s what he should have written to make it “right” • I am the Eggpod with Chris Shaw • Episode 31 📍 • (December 31, 2019)
Lewisohn: “and all those people had to die” • “There’s a story in Tune In…” — (not the story in Tune In) • I am the Eggpod – Episode 31 📍 December 31, 2019 ❦ post comparing this clip to what is in Tune In and all the reasons this is ridiculous
Lewisohn: FOTR -“I put him off it.” Lewisohn uncomfortable, trying to decide how much to say and what to say. On a Paul autobiography. Ethan Alexanian got Mark Lewisohn to talk like no one else, ever.
Lewisohn- Eggpod ❦ Magic Alex was fine, actually
“I’m not an egomaniac” • Mark Lewisohn, exceedingly prickly about David Bedford questioning him – Things We Said Today – Nov 22, 2017 – Ep 252
David Bedford on The Beatles with Michael J – still learning new things (and not prickly at all about it) – How real historians actually talk: “I’m still learning something new” … “Okay, I’m going to have to revise what I think about that”
—Mark Lewisohn: “UTTERLY TRUTHFUL” • “I’ve said this before, but it really comes down to the fact that in my view, the Beatles stood for truth. And that they can best be served by a piece of biography– a piece of work like this that is utterly truthful in every line, in every sentence, in every paragraph and chapter, every page. So it’s honoring them by getting their story as accurate as possible and as truthful as possible…” ❦ Humans in Love podcast, featuring Zachary Stockill. Ep1—Part Two • Mark Lewisohn 📍 (May 22. 2018)
“A key part of the book is that I keep my opinion out of it. I let everybody who was a witness to history tell the story. It’s not my story. I wasn’t present.” ❦  arte da biografia – (April 26, 2024) On those disappearing witnesses only Lewisohn has interviewed, and who we have to trust to tell us the truth, and no you can’t hear the author interviews for yourself because they’re all his.
MARK LEWISOHN: “WRONG FOREVER”
“I need to do the book, the history” – “I just decided this has to be done really properly” – “It’s very important that I write this book now, because otherwise it will be wrong forever. And the primary reason for me doing it is to ensure that it’s right… if I don’t write these books it will be wrong forever. It will be misunderstood forever… it’s only really me who’s really out there trying to get it right.” – Arte da Biografia (April 26, 2024)
John and Yoko were not heroin addicts (fab4cast) • Possibly the most ridiculous stream of words ever to come out of Mark Lewisohn’s mouth.

Pre-Get Back Mark Lewisohn vs. post-Get Back Mark Lewisohn:

Pre-Get Back, slightly shy Mark Lewisohn (eggpod) • Dec 31, 2019
Post-Get Back, coyly soaking-up-the-adoration-Mark Lewisohn (eggpod) • July 7, 2023

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She is just plowing through sources. And it’s not looking good for Mark Lewisohn.

I already had a less-than-favorable view of Lewisohn’s work after @anotherkindofmindpod’s mammoth “Fine Tuning” series, a well-researched, often infuriating, always entertaining series that laid out the overarching bias in Tune In, but there can still be value in a biased work, particularly if you consume it with that bias in mind. Doctoring quotes, on the other hand–for a biography of supposed historical import, that’s a capital offense. So how could a big-name author, revered for his rigor and devotion to primary sources, put so many barely-concealed doctored quotes into his work? Why would he do it? And if @mythserene could turn up several as part of an initial investigation, just how many of the quotes in Tune In weren’t actually quotes?

Naturally, I’ve chosen to do the sane thing, and check each of his sources, one by one.

Arranged alphabetically by author/interviewer

Mark Lewisohn vs. Cynthia Lennon

A Twist of Lennon (1978) and John (2005) by Cynthia Lennon

Part 1 

Cyn standing up to John is crucial enough that Lewisohn mentions it twice in short order, but that dynamic isn’t present in either of Cynthia’s accounts. … This isn’t the only time Lewisohn writes something contradicted by his cited source, and in some of those cases, I’ve found information supporting Lewisohn’s account in another, uncited source—we’ll get an example of that in the Twist citations. But I don’t think that’s what’s going on here…


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LEWISOHN: “Cyn would write about a flaming row…” Would she? ❌ A Beatle’s wife didn’t say that.
Lewisohn makes up his own Dot/Paul breakup scene, but tells us that Cynthia said it. (She did not.)

In pink, we have Lewisohn’s misrepresentation of Cyn’s account of the breakup. Note the wildly different timbre. In green and yellow, we have Dot’s account from It’s Only Love. At the source, the green text comes after the yellow text, seemingly in response to a different question in the original interview.

@wingsoverlagos – tumblr: Lewisohn vs. Cynthia Lennon II
“…all went very quiet.” ❦ CYNTHIA in Twist: What’s the opposite of “a flaming row”?

 Part 3

There are three citations of A Twist of Lennon (1978, aka Twist) and two to John (2005) to dissect here, and all but one have a commonality: the cited source is either altered or directly contradicted in Tune In.

Hiding Stuart
1980 BBC Radio Interview by Andy Peebles
1980 Playboy Interview by David Sheff

Part 1 // Part 1.5 // Part 2 // Part 3

1965 Playboy Interview by Jean Shepherd
Jann Wenner Interviews (May and December 1970)
Lewisohn vs. Wenner • Part 1 of 2

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Mark Lewisohn quotes interviews conducted by Jann Wenner ten times in Tune In; nine of those quotes had issues. Nine of the ten quotes come from the infamous Lennon Remembers interview (conducted in Dec. 1970 and first published in Jan. 1971); the other one is from a different 1970 interview for Rolling Stone. A few of these have been covered by @mythserene; I’ve included links to her analysis.

About half of Lewisohn’s Wenner-sourced ‘quotes’ are Textbook Multi-Source Frankenquotes. Lewisohn does this quite brazenly–if you look at the text of the endnote, it will say something like “First and third parts of quote from Bip Bop Weekly, second part from interview with….” The multi-source quotes will appear in part two; this post will include the single-source ones.

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Many Years From Now by Barry Miles (1997)/The Beatles Anthology (2005)
Tune In 13-23 (the “we” means “I” endnote, plus Paul’s French influences)

Today, I’d like to share one of Mark Lewisohn’s most entertaining fucked-up citations. This citation, Tune In 13-23, contains a rare example of Lewisohn almost saying something correct/insightful about Paul McCartney before hopelessly fumbling, as well as a far-less-rare example of Lewisohn correcting Paul on a bit of trivia while simultaneously mangling the source material. …

The Best of Fellas by Spencer Leigh aka Lewisohn’s Little Mysteries ft. Serene

Misc.

Kim Bennett

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Lewisohn’s feelings on Olivia Harrison
Cynthia was very comforted by John’s domestic abuse-centric story in In His Own Write